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Post subject: Re: Euro 635csi "Pic Heavy" (12-02-13)

wow i never wouldve thought about painting the seat rails and mounts. Looks good.

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So this next update really isn't much. The past couple of weeks I have been pretty busy finishing up school and switching jobs from being a server to working at a shop. Now that I am out of school for a month, and with my new job at the shop I don't work on weekends any more! Very Happy So now I will have a lot more free time to finish up the car! Cool

So I took a little break from studying and decided to make a list of things that still need to be done to the car. I decided I should probably stop because as the list kept growing more and more...the more bummed I became:


Seem as if my car doesn't like the cold because I came out this puddle of power steering...This is going to be a pain to clean up!


So later that day I decided to change my oil (Not anything exciting) and look around for that power steering leak. I was hoping that it would be a loose hose but of coarse it can't ever be that easy with this car! Turns out it could be a couple of things loose hose, crush washer, probably the biggest thing is the o-ring between the master cylinder and brake booster is toast.

Steering Box:

Master Cylinder and Brake Booster:

One of the Hoses:

Merry Christmas too myself! haha


Pictures of how she sits right now: (taken from my iPhone so not best quality!)



So Many Six Series!

That's all for now more updates to come quickly!
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Having just gone through all of this, the only way to do it right is to change every return hose, every fitting, the bomb, pressure switches, etc. For the booster, it's likely the front o-ring. Rebuilt mine for peace of mind. Every seal replaced.

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wkohler wrote:
Having just gone through all of this, the only way to do it right is to change every return hose, every fitting, the bomb, pressure switches, etc. For the booster, it's likely the front o-ring. Rebuilt mine for peace of mind. Every seal replaced.

Thats a project im saving for a rainy day. I will probably do all that when i do the steering box reinforcement.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:59 pm
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bastarde38 wrote:
wkohler wrote:
Having just gone through all of this, the only way to do it right is to change every return hose, every fitting, the bomb, pressure switches, etc. For the booster, it's likely the front o-ring. Rebuilt mine for peace of mind. Every seal replaced.

Thats a project im saving for a rainy day. I will probably do all that when i do the steering box reinforcement.

Yes, I plan on doing all of that for a rainy day as well.

Anyways here is a the newest update.
Got some more upgraded parts:
1.)Steering Box Reinforcement
2.) New Exhaust Hangers.
3.) H&R 5mm Spacers




I actually found the spacers on a car at the yard! They were a little rusty when I found them but I hit them with a wire wheel and removed pretty much all the surface rust. Then sprayed them with a clear coat some they won't start rusting again.



Installation:



Fitment Before Spacers:

Driver Side:


Passenger Side:



After Spacers Installed:

Driver Side:


Passenger Side:



I still want to order before getting the corner balancing done:
1.) Sway Bar Reinforcements
2.) Ireland Engineering Rear Camber Kit (mainly this)

Some of peopler were wondering what I used the paint my calipers and I probably sprayed about 5 coats on each Caliper.


So I was able to fix the oil leak. It was the oil pressure sensor. I knew that was the problem I was just to lazy to change it until now! Here are pictures of the culprit!

Old vs. New

Installed:

I also got a 140v Hobart Handler Welder for christmas: I went and bought the welding cart but still need to buy the Argon.


Its go time now!

One day I had tried to unlock my car from the passenger side but wasn't able to lock it either. When I would drive I would here somethings rattling in the door. When I took a second to look at what it was I found this. Glad it was an easy fix.

Installed a new rubber piece:




While I had it opened up I might as well Lubricate all the lock mechanisms and window rails.




Before, I installed my new door panels, I decided to make a plastic sheeting so no water could damage the door cards which are made of a cardboard like material. Since the door panels have tweeter in them I needed to run some wire to them.

Running all the wiring to the doors. I really hate doing wiring!


Needed to solder all the wires together:




Solders the wires and forgot to put the shrink wrap on this one! Evil or Very Mad

Quick Fix:


Wrapped them up with some electrical tape and then shrink wrap:





Materials for installation of speakers and door panels.

Seems as if I might have bought to much! haha Good thing it was only about $10 for all this material!




Sprayed the 3m adhesive all over the door and the plastic sheeting:




They aren't perfect but I am was pretty happy with the result. I still need to do some final trimming when the door cards and panels are installed.


Finally after all that work I get to install the door panels! Here is the easy part or at least thats what I first thought..
Installation of the door caps:



Now the door cards: SOOO PRETTY!!



Before Installing the rest of the panels needed to put some new clips and clean them up a little:




Installed:



I thought I would be able to finished and put the door handles on but was able to because of these few problems..caused by previous owners. (I really tired of fixing his fuck ups!)



I am sure I will find a way to make it work some time today, but that all for now thanks for looking!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:37 am
Post subject: Re: Euro 635csi "Pic Heavy" (1/3/14)

I saw finally saw you driving out of SCC today. I was on a bike(no license currently) waiting to cross the 101 on-ramp and heard you take off on that ramp. That exhaust has quiet a sound when you get on it, there were two construction workers and they both heard your car. They turned around towards the ramp and had a wtf was that look on their face.

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mitch5 wrote:
I saw finally saw you driving out of SCC today. I was on a bike(no license currently) waiting to cross the 101 on-ramp and heard you take off on that ramp. That exhaust has quiet a sound when you get on it, there were two construction workers and they both heard your car. They turned around towards the ramp and had a wtf was that look on their face.

Ok, I would have never guessed that you are mitch5! haha Thanks, I had the electric cut-out open when I was leaving campus that day. When the electric cut-out is closed, it's no where close to being that loud. If you ever see me on campus feel free to come say, "hey". I'll do the same if I ever see you.

Sorry, everyone for my pictures being down. I maxed out the bandwidth on my photo bucket account. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:49 am
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Well...it has been awhile since my last update and feel I should show a little update! As usual I have been pretty busy with school and work, but picking up 3 more project e24's does help either! haha

Here are some pictures of the fleet:
1987 Black e24 635csi (Project Car/Fixer Upper), 1983 Light Blue e24 635csi (Dad's), 3 Tone Paint Job 1983 e24 635csi (Mine), Black 1987 e28 535is (Dad's).




Two Newest e24's! Black 1986 e24 635csi, Blue 1986 e24 635csi



Also did some Winter/Spring Cleaning so we can fit another car in the garage!


Anyways besides my Dad and I buying more project cars then I can handle and have time for, here is some of the small stuff I did to my car!

Well after installing the the 5mm, 3mm spacers on my et15 rk's to my car I decided it wasn't wide enough and I wanted to go wider! So I bought some 20mm and 15mm spacers. I running the 15mm in the front and 20mm in the rear to give the car a little bit of a stagger look. I also had to order some new 50mm lug bolts to be able to run the spacers. I went with a little bit longer lug bolt, since it does hold my wheel in place!



20mm spacers:


15mm spacers:


Lug Bolts:



Installed Spacers:



The fitment: I definitely need to go a little lower now.




Since I had ordered a little bit longer lug bolts I thought they would clear everything behind the hub of the wheel. Well...they did for three of the wheels but on the front passenger struts the lug bolts didn't. So I needed to raise the car dissemble the front strut housing brake assembly to try and find out what the lug bolts were rubbing (more like bashing) against. Once everything was taken apart I came to find out it was hitting the ABS dust shield cover. Lucky this was an easy fix. I took an angle grinder I trimmed down the ABS dust shield down to the point of where the lug bolt won't hit but will still serve it's purpose of keeping the ABS sensor clean-ish. I thought it was weird because the front driver side didn't have any clearance issue.

(This cut looks terrible! haha I did smooth out the surface but I guess I didn't take a picture of the finished product!)

Piece it as hitting:


Story Time: (Conclusion to why it only hit on one side)
Awhile back I had to replace the passenger strut housing because I found out it was slight bend. I went to the yard and just replaced the it with one off a e28. Well I guess BMW made two or possible more slightly different struts.

Original Strut Housing:


Strut Housing identical to the one I used to replace:


Comparison:


When I was messing around with my spacers I was trying to figure out why my car would shimmy at around 70mph. Think I found the problem! The front sway bar bushing was shot, probably need an alignment badly.




If you have ever owned an e24/e28 and had to replace the sway bar bushing. You will know that the originally mounts are total s**t and the bolt hole strips super easily. Well, after replacing this sway bar bushing I decided to order a front sway bar reinforcement kit from Aaron from Limited Slip Engineering. These things are awesome and can't wait to install them!



Also decided to order Ireland Engineering Posi-Lock rear camber and toe kit!


Also finally got around to installing the new shifter/boot, on a good shifter boot frame. Putting that s**t on was a lot harder then I thought, because the leather did not want to stretch!




New coolant over slow tank installed:


Pictures From the GoodSpeed Event: Left: Dan's (Freshbread), Middle: My Dad's, Right: My P.O.S.




I started to notice that when I am playing my stereo and the bass would hit, it would draw a lot power. I was probably pushing the limits of the original alternator. Since, I was given a good b35 alternator and bracket decided to try and make that fit. Since the b35 alternators produce more amps then a b34.

Question:
"Does the b35 alternator bolt directly to a b34?"
Answer:
"NO!!!"

But if you do some small modifications, you can make it work. Here is the way I adapted it to work.

Left (b35), Right (b34)



As I was taking off the b34 alternator a bolt snapped, at least it wasn't that big of a problem since I had to drill a bigger hole in the alternator/p.s. bracket. It just made it a little bit harder to drill out a larger hole.




Fitment issues:
1.) The b35 bracket isn't wide enough to fit around the bracket that mounts to the engine.




2.) On the bottom of the alternator the mounting points are wider than bracket/bolt that mounts to the engine.



3.) The wires will needed to routed just a little bit differently. You will also need to install larger wire crimp terminals.



4.) Will need to drill a larger hole where the b35 bracket mounts to the motor mounting bracket. (Where the bolt snapped). So you can run a bolt through.



5.)The b35 alternator's plastic wire cover will need to be trimmed to be able to run negative connection.

6.) Original belt size belt is to large and will need to buy one that a little bit small. "Sorry don't have measurements, but can double check if any one is interested."

Solutions:
1.) Grind down the motor mounting brackets. Make sure you grind the part facing the rear of the car. If you grind down the side facing the front the alternator will no longer line up with the water pump, crank pulleys for the belt.







2.) For the bottom mounting there are a few different things you can do. I decided to take some metal tubing a cut it down to the length that fits between the space, to apply pressure on the bracket mounting points. (I found this the easiest, cheapest, quickest way). Will also need a longer bolt.




All mounted:


3.)Make sure you find a wire crimp large enough to be able to attach to the b35 alternator.

4.) Next, you might want to drill a hole in the motor mounting bracket. That step is pretty straight forward.




5.) Trim the plastic wiring cover, you will need this so the wires don't ground out on the alternator.





Good thing I did this I need to replace my belts badly!



All mounted up, and works great!



Next thing is trying to figure out a way to route the air cooling tubing!




That's all for now, it might be awhile before my next update. Thing that will be coming up:
1.) Paint
2.) Interior Finished
3.) Turn the coilover down, correct the ride height.
4.) Install all reinforcement kits.

In the far future:
Power Upgrade! That is going to be secret won't show that until it is fully complete!

Thanks for Looking!
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Nice pics! Did the ECS spacers work? I had some e30 spacers from them, but the "reverse chamfer" or whatever it is around the hub extension did not allow any of my wheels to seat correctly, it would leave a couple mm between the wheel and the spacer surface.

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Great job Smile That car will look amazing once you finish with it.

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 3:29 am
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tttoon wrote:
Nice pics! Did the ECS spacers work? I had some e30 spacers from them, but the "reverse chamfer" or whatever it is around the hub extension did not allow any of my wheels to seat correctly, it would leave a couple mm between the wheel and the spacer surface.

Huh? That's weird, I have no problem running the ECS spacers.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 3:50 am
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Well its summer time, and I got my hands on this....

Lets see how this goes! haha

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Ugh, do not want. But good luck nonetheless.

Didnt this thread have a different name?

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Yes, the thread use to have a different name. I thought change with something more creative.

I know it isn't first choice for a power upgrade. I was able to make a deal with Chris K. for the kit. I'm not looking to make extremely horse power. My goal is 350-400rwhp. This kit isn't for a m30. It will require a 24v swap. So I'm looking to either swap in a m50 or m52 with ob1 conversion. The kit is really nice, and totally custom. Who ever designed it did a really good job! The intake manifold and everything was TIG welded. All the tubing is mandrel bent. I also liked that the kit was a twin screw set up, something different and nobody runs this type of setup.

So the main things that will need to be done is:
1.) 24v swap with zf trans (prefer the zf but if I can't find anything then I will setting for a getrag)
2.) rerouting the intercooler and tubing.
3.) rebuilding the supercharger.

I will need to customize a bunch of other things like motor mounts, etc. It will be a great to practice my MIG and TIG welding...
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i guess im just getting old. swapping a 24v into your car would be a travesty. IMO. its your car. i have liked everything youve done with it so far.

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